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It
happened in 1995, just as Depeche Mode was enjoying its greatest
success. Gahan moved to Los Angeles and checked into his personal
version of the Hotel California. Guns, slit wrists, and padded cells
entered his life. The following year he overdosed on a cocktail of
smack and coke; paramedics had to revive him three times. The singer
literally died and was reborn.
These days, Gahan's priorities have changed.
When he’s jogging through Central Park, he prefers to warm up with
a little Sigur Ros before tapping into the Led Zeppelin. He's
looking for a balance between being a family man with a new daughter
and being a pop star with new music to make. He’s moved out of Los
Angeles’ smog-filled canyons, preferring New York’s concrete
jungle. And he’s the stronger for all of it. His voice has
sharpened its emotional attack, bringing a deep sense of
vulnerability to Depeche Mode’s Ultra and Exciter
albums. It's power hasn't dissipated either. It still contains
enough sensual majesty to whip up a crowded stadium.
This maturity resonates on Gahan's new solo
album, Paper Monsters. No, Depeche Mode isn’t over, but its
singer is shaking things up a bit by breaking from his
established character as conduit for Martin Gore’s faith and
devotion tunes. His days of debauchery still haunt him a bit; Gahan
messes with that now-dead persona on lead single “Dirty Sticky
Floors.” But the man has come around. Amid the disc's bluesy
electronics and reflective atmospherics, he actually finds a little
hope of his own. He spoke to VH1 about talking to tin men, his New
York state of mind, and how “evil Dave” hasn’t completely gone
away.
Q:
The “Dirty Sticky Floors” video has a great scene of you trying
to push an oversized boat into the water and getting nowhere...
Dave Gahan: It was a real bugger trying
to get it into the water! You couldn’t move the thing. I actually
pulled my back out later that night. It wasn’t until the next
morning that I was like, “What happened? What did I do?”
Q:
Is it representative of you trying to get to a certain place in your
life but being unable to?
DG: Yeah, and trying to drag it all
with you. The song is all about the so-called glamorous side of rock
n’ roll, and ending up on some dirty sticky floor every single
night, some god-awful toilet in some club or - most of the time - my
own dirty sticky floor in my own bathroom. But I wanted to poke fun
at the whole side of rock n’ roll and have fun with it, even
though the lyrics represent a true part of my life at that time. The
tin man and the lion character were two huge dolls I had in my
apartment in Santa Monica. I had burnt out all my friends and these
two dolls used to keep me company. On any given night, they would
start talking to me. Suffice to say, they didn’t last.
Q:
What did they give you - good or bad advice?
DG: Don’t even go there! It was a
really bad time in my life. Too much drugs, too much alcohol. It got
to the point of complete paranoia and isolation. I wouldn’t wish
that upon my worst friend today, but I was lucky enough to have a
few friends that I started to listen to. Thank God I am still here
and my life couldn’t be better!
Q:
What’s been the reaction been like to your first solo outing?
DG: People are surprised - in a good
way! Like, “Oh, it’s good!” I really wanted to make
something timeless, and not think so much about who I am or what I'm
supposed to do. It wasn’t that I didn’t want to be me. I just
wanted to challenge myself and go into the unknown a little.
Q:
How did you do that without the security that Depeche Mode must
offer?
DG: I wrote these songs with a friend
of mine in New York, Knox Chandler, and it was all about having fun.
The only rule that we had while writing was “be open.” We’d be
working on one song like ‘’Dirty Sticky Floors’’ one day,
and the next, we’d be working on “A Little Piece,” which is a
completely different thing. There wasn’t any attempt to make this
album fit into a particular genre of music that’s around now.
Q:
Did you have more chance to experiment with things than you do with
Depeche Mode?
DG: With Depeche, after you’ve been
together with people for a long time, you know each other very well
and you have your roles. This time, I didn’t want to feel like I
had my role – although it’s a great role! I wanted to play a
different character for a while and see what that feels like.
Q:
What’s the story behind the album title?
DG: I called the album Paper
Monsters because while making the album, I realized I was
working through some of my biggest fears about things I wasn’t
capable of doing. At times it’s like you fake it, until you make
it. But the producer, Ken Thomas, put me at ease. He said that the
songs had a life of their own. He said, “If the songs make us feel
good, they’re going to make other people feel good.”
Q:
You’ve spoke about your doubts about playing instruments. You
wouldn’t think that of someone who can command a stage like you
do. Is that feeling still in your heart?
DG: Oh yeah. I’m still terrified when
I perform! Just before I go onstage, I’m absolutely terrified, but
once I’m up there, after a song or two, it’s an amazing place to
be. That part of what I do has always been a big strength of mine.
When I wrote these songs, we were always thinking about performing
them.
Q:
Some sound like devil songs; some sound like angel songs.
DG: Yeah. A little bit of “evil
Dave” comes out in “Bottle Living.” Evil Dave comes out in
some of the stuff, but he’s not really that bad. There’s more of
my sensitive side in the songs. It had always been there, but I
tried to cover it up with the tough guy persona. “Stay” and “A
Little Piece” are more reflective of what’s going on in my life,
like the birth of my daughter. I embrace life more than I give
myself credit. This album is about that – it’s about hope and
trying to be in the moment.
Q:
“Bottle Living” sounds very bluesy. Did you learn about the
blues firsthand or through groups like the Rolling Stones?
DG: The Stones came first. There was
also The Doors. But Daniel Miller, who runs Mute Records, said to
me, “Look, if you like this, then you’ve got to listen to this!’
So I got introduced to John Lee Hooker, Muddy Waters and Howlin’
Wolf. Muddy Waters blew my head off! He still does. I can play my
guitar to it. It’s all 12 bar stuff and you can have a lot of fun.
I play my harmonica over Howlin’ Wolf’s stuff. It’s like going
backwards for me. It’s great to go back, because you suddenly
realize, “Oh, Willie Dixon wrote that Zeppelin song!” For me, it
was glam rock first, then it went into electronic stuff like
Kraftwerk, and then I got into the blues and could see the genius in
what Zeppelin and the Stones did. For me on this album, there’s
definitely some glam stuff in there and Ken’s influence – he
produced the Sigur Ros’ albums – has definitely given me the
space.
Q:
Sigur Ros has also loomed large over your work of late. Their sound
is hard to pin down. Can you describe what their music sounds like?
DG: You can’t describe it. You
can’t say, “Jónsi’s lyrics are … he’s saying this or
he’s saying that …” He’s not saying anything! But it makes
me feel good. It’s as simple as that. It makes me feel excited
about life, wanting to try something myself, wanting to be a better
father, wanting to be a better husband. I was playing their second
album this morning while I was running. I find it so uplifting. The
music of Sigur Ros in the last three years certainly has inspired me
again. I’ve had that a lot of times in my life. I could say the
same about David Bowie when I was growing up as a teenager. There
was something about what he did that was magical and I wanted to
escape into that world that he was living in. I wasn’t sure where
it was but I was going to try and find out!
Q:
Isn’t Sigur Ros too dreamy to jog down the street to?
DG:
I’ve just turned 41 – although I’m still a very young man –
and sometimes it’s just the right thing. I can’t handle
listening to Led Zeppelin I straight away! For the first
couple of miles it’s Sigur Ros!
Q:
Tell me about the song “Hidden Houses.
DG: Where I live, there are a lot of those doors that lead to
nowhere. I walk around a lot on those cobbled streets of New
York’s meatpacking district with my son Jimmy and that’s when I
first got the idea for the song; that we have all those hidden
agendas and secrets that we don’t want to tell, because - God
forbid! - someone might get to know us. I wanted to expose that part
of me because hiding that stuff can certainly become painful.
Q:
What’s the appeal of living in New York City for you?
DG: I love living here. I’ve lived
here for seven years and a lot more things make sense to me. Miles
Davis makes more sense to me. John Coltrane makes more sense to me.
I get my best ideas just walking around the city – I can walk
around the busiest, noisiest environment, and actually feel
peaceful. Everything’s moving around so fast, that I actually slow
down. In Los Angeles, I couldn’t do that. Everything was going so
slow that the committee in my head wouldn’t stop |